Warned about during May 2007
Why are tax opportunities and real-estate being promoted at the London Sales office of Tahitian Noni International? You could ask Liquid Assets UK, Ltd. and What If Consultants about that. If you have been approached by a company called Liquid Assets UK, Ltd. or What If Consultants, you can probably already guess what this article is about. Both these companies hold their meetings on the 24th Floor at Centrepoint, New Oxford St, London. For those unfamiliar with the address, that is the London Sales office of Tahitian Noni International.
What If Consultants regularly invites people to attend their so-called “free” seminars, in which they bombard the audience with ways to enter into the Noni Juice network. They lure people in by pretending that their “free” seminar is to help you claim between 2.000 and 6.000 UK pounds (that’s $4.000 to $12.000) tax back. They call this an “amazing opportunity”. Of course the real goal of these “free” seminars is to get you hooked into the Noni Juice network, sign you up as distributors (IPC’s, Independent Product Consultants)-or, if nothing else, turn you into a believer who will consume the juice and spend hundreds a month for the “pleasure” of ordering cases of smelly putrid tasting juice. They argue that if you enter into their “amazing opportunity,” you will essentially be running your own business and can thus get certain tax breaks. Of course, once you are hooked, you will learn that the opportunity is everything but amazing.
Liquid Assets Uk, Ltd. describes itself as a company that provides “free” seminars “at which you will learn how you can set up a simple income-producing asset using some little-known strategies to your benefit, without changing your current occupation”. It’s a typial MLM and pyramid scheme lure to get people to fall for it. In both cases these “free” seminars are, of course, not presented or explained as associated or involved with Tahitian Noni Juice in any way, and the relation between the so-called “free” information and the juice scam are hidden from plain view to you as an attendee in these meetings.
At their most recent meeting they also had Mr. Ade Shokoya (Adewale Shokoya), from Genie Properties, provide “secrets” about the property market while offering special discounts for various activities. You can see Mr. Adewale Shokoya pictured in between that of Donald Trump and other tycoons (the digital e-book can be licensed, having your “bonus section” added to it, and have it prepared for re-sale, all resulting in the ability to claim one is a licensed co-author alongside people like Donald Trump who’s contribution to the original e-book is granting permission for a reprint of a small part of his own book “Trump, The Art Of The Deal”). In the “bonus content” you will find an article “How to Turn £11,374 Into £125,998 in Less Than 2 Months”.
We will, of course, save you the boring details. Mr. Ade Shokoya has said to be Mentor on the North London “Silver Diamond Programme.” Note that this is NOT this Silver Diamond program! This is a different company that does real-estate, bulk mailing and mailing lists (otherwise known as spam), and they do MLM business opportunities, too. We are not certain what Mr. Shokoya’s involvement is in the Noni business or if there is any. Perhaps they had invited him as a presenter without knowing the controversial nature of Noni Juice and MLM’s. Mr. Shokoya appears also to run shopwithgenie, an online retail shop.
We recommend always being careful when dealing with real-estate because there are a lot of scams out there, often operated by predatory realtors. One of those is called a “1-2-3 construction” which you can find out about with a few online searches. Also, if property investment companies lists things like “If you choose to use your own mortgage broker to arrange a mortgage, make sure they are experienced in handling creative finance techniques transaction.” and “The valuation instructed on a property, by the lender, is not necessarily the open market value. Down-valuations can occur in some instances. This cannot be controlled and you may have to find more money to put into an investment, especially in instances of no-deposit down deals.” then it certainly looks to us as a reason to be cautious.
Anyone who is asked or offered to present at meetings that are intended to promote controversial pyramid schemes with a controversial reputation should always be careful about what it is they are getting associated with. There are organizers out there who couldn’t care less who they inadvertently associate with their MLM recruitment activities.
Isn’t Noni bringing in enough money at this point?
Why is the London office used for all this?
The involvement of these two companies with Tahitian Noni is very clear, though. Liquid Assets UK, Ltd. and What If Consultants are both run by Mr. Nick Menz. Mr. Menz, together with Mr. Nick Holden, both from Australia, have been instrumental in introducing Noni Juice to the UK.
How much of the profits from these activities does the TNI HQ and its directors get, if any? Or doesn’t the corporate HQ of TNI know that these side-businesses are being operated out of their London office? Or does TNI only profit from the new signups into the network and as such allow the side-businesses to bring in new recruits?
Either way, it’s a fishy situation that smells worse than Noni Juice itself.
Has quality control at TNI gone down the drain with quarantined juice spinning out of control and straight into a dumping ground? Recent information that has been provided to us certainly indicates that there are serious quality control problems with the Noni Juice.
UPDATE: MORE INFORMATION AND PICTURES HERE
We all know that Tahitian Noni Juice smells bad and tastes even worse but for many this has been a reason to claim that the worse it is, the better the quality and the more it will cure you. Unfortunately, it is TNI who is in need of a cure to combat the quality control issues that are being reported as causing both significant financial drain and contaminated bottles of juice. With the financial drain putting pressure on TNI it has now become clear that there is an increased risk of having contaminated bottles finding their way down to the consumers.
This contamination has been an ongoing battle for TNI because of the process used to produce the final bottles of Noni Juice that are sold as cure-all miracles. TNI, like many juice producers, prides themselves on their quality control. If that is the case when why is there so much concern over quarantined batches? Before the main component of Noni Juice reaches the bottling plant for processing it is first harvested, which includes both the “fruit” as well as the weeds and plant debris that are contained in barrels for a while where it would probably rot and ferment. Around that time it gets shipped by sea at which point the fermenting noni is enough to make your stomach turn inside out based on stories we have heard who have seen it up close. The heating and flash pasteurization at the processing plant are applied to combat several key problems with potassium levels and yeasts. The contamination with bacteria and microbial side effects are normally dealt with under quality control.
This Quality Control that TNI has always claimed they were proud of must have been been dealt a significant blow with the termination and loss of key employees in charge of QC. These changes, which are a follow-up to the employment termination of Mr. Eldon Pierce, who was previously in control of quality control. As a result QC has been repositioned as a unit under Marketing, which is Mr. Kelly Olsen’s department where the noni juice is now only being tested by random compliance tests which involves testing only a few bottles of juice that pass the quality test and which are subsequently used as a “pass” to ship an entire batch of bottles.
With the termination of employment of those people who were the only line of defense against the nasty mass of rotten compost that is used to create the Noni Juice there is now a higher risk of consumers potentially buying contaminated juice. Not a very healthy situation! We also learned that the quarantined juice products that do not pass quality control are stored in the big warehouse near their bottling plant and that there is a lot of activity there when this quarantined mess is taken away to be dumped and covered up.
The Noni Watch has just learned that the Carrick Law Group that had sent a notice of violation to Tahitian Noni regarding the use of Progesterone in Tahiti Trim Plan 40 products have settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. Tahitian Noni International will be placing warning labels on their products.
The Notice that the Carrick Law Group sent stated that in the course of doing business, TNI, knowingly and intentiolally exposed, and continued to expose, individuals (especially woman) to the listed chemicals and that no clear and reasonable warning is or has been provided by TNI to individuals regarding exposure to the listed chemicals or regarding the fact that these are known to the State of California to be a health risk. The state of California lists Progesterone, Medroxyprogesterone acetate, Testosterone and its esters as carcinogens (known to cause cancer) and lists Medroxyprogesterone acetate, Methyltestosterone, Testosterone cypionate and Testosterone enanthate, as reproductive toxins.
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So based on what they pay people to do, which companies get the Pyramid Quack award? One gal, Phyllis, a Tahitian Noni rep for years, told the group this:
Typical order: $120 for the Noni juice per month.
Pay for getting a customer (who doesn’t sell it) to buy it: 6%. That’s like $5 for getting a $120 order. (!!) With such puny pay, who’d want to go after customers? They don’t, and haven’t, for years, she said. This pay plan tells it all: We pay you to get recruits - people who sell it. We don’t care about customers who just buy it (and who don’t sell it). So, we were about to bestow upon the Tahitian Noni International pay plan, the Pyramid Quack award.
Then with great pride, she announced to the group: “But Kim, this past year they’ve worked to change it - because I think they heard you. As of May 1, 2006, they are paying 20% for customer orders. So now we get $24 for each of those orders!”
That’s what, 3 days ago? After almost 10 years of being in business.
Source: FSA
Noni de Tahiti Ltd has applied to the Agency sell its noni juice in the under the simplified procedure for approving novel foods. Under the Novel Foods Regulation a novel food is defined as a food that does not have a significant history of being eaten within the European Union before May 1997. Noni de Tahiti Ltd has asked the Food Standards Agency to approve its juice for sale, on the grounds that the company is buying its noni juice from Tahiti Products Inc, which buys its supply from a company that has already had its noni juice product approved.
Regulation (EC) 258/97 makes provision for novel foods or ingredients that are substantially equivalent to an existing product to be placed on the market once the applicant has informed the European Commission. In all cases to date, the Commission has required that the applicant first obtain an opinion on equivalence from a Member State, in this case, the UK.
On the Noni worldwidewarning site you will often find references to other products that are sold via similar means and fraudulent claims. Since not all products and companies are the same –even though it sure all shares more similarities than differences– we would like to bring to your attention two new sister sites that will focus more on these other products, namely, Goji Juice and Xango.
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