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IPC’s claim they were lied to by TNI
April 20, 2007

Over the past several months we’ve been receiving e-mail from TNI IPC’s (Independent Product Consultants, is what TNI calls their dealers and distributors in the pyramid scheme, over which they have little or no control). The dealers claim that TNI has lied to them. However, these lies are not about the claimed miracle healing powers but rather about the financial aspects. Needless to say we’re not at all surprised about that.

Telling a lie and not telling the whole truth are two completely different things when it comes to MLM based companies like TNI. And, as usual, a lot of dealers only start making noises if their income is at stake, as opposed to anything else. The dealers who have written to us claim that TNI has been telling them all along that “we will always cut you in and will never cut you out” when it comes to the recruitment of new victims (new IPC’s, that is). The process as the dealers claim is that people who become a dealer will be assigned a random IPC in the pyramid, based on the IPC account number. However, as it turns out, people can also directly buy retail from TNI and also be a so called “Rewards Member” while doing your monthly ordering of Noni Juice.

The most recent information that has reached us is from another dealer who claims that someone at customer services at TNI has now admitted that if someone signs up without referring to their upline IPC account number, that the company then keeps that for themselves. This of course not being what TNI has always told their dealers and which is making them angry and threatening to depart from the pyramid scheme. The anger is mostly because dealers are not making the money that TNI has always told them they would make with these random IPC assignments. The Noni Watch Team is not at all surprised about any of this. It’s just another scam in the bigger scheme, or scam, of things.

Zavindur wrote on May 4, 2007 at 5:44 pm

I’m a sales agent for TNI, the person who gave you this information was obviously an idiot, as about 4% of ipcs are.

Many times I have people come in and say “but last time they gave me a 50% discount” even though TNI has never done anything like that and look at the persons previous order it was a normal order. So all that stuff about a TNI sales agent saying that TNI gets all the profits off of rewards members is either a lie or some idiot blabering.

I can actually look at the system and see the payout information infront of my face and the checks that are sent out to ipcs, a rewards member is randomly assigned to an ipc about a week after they sign up and that ipc is credited with all their orders.

But this type of web-site probably isn’t interested in a balanced report, I don’t like the whole MLM style either but doesn’t make it right to wrongly criticize a noble company.

Noni Watch wrote on May 4, 2007 at 6:39 pm

We love balanced reports. Currently we’re looking into a quarantine balance. If you can see the IPC payout information, can you perhaps also look out of a window at the big warehouse across from the distribution plant and see the volume of quarantined Noni Juice that failed quality control? Why are those hauled off at night?

Slippery Pete wrote on May 10, 2007 at 5:47 am

Sorry Zavindur, that just means that they’re hiding it from you too. I can report with 100% certainty that unreferred Rewards Members are in fact held by the company. The system does not make any changes “about a week after they sign up”, it either leadshares them immediately or keeps it for the company under a RM Top Sponsor account in the 890 range, but you cannot pull them up because Pinnacle blocks all but a few people in the company from viewing IPCs under 1000.

After signup, the company sponsored RM’s first order does not pay out any commissions. Every order after that pays out to a random IPC through leadshare, but they never get the credit for the volume. Since a fairly large majority of new signups only ever place one order, this means that TNI winds up with quite a bit of money off of these orders. So much for ‘never cutting you out’. You’d think that the other changes that they made to the comp plan would have already screwed the IPCs enough without this…

Zavindur wrote on September 15, 2009 at 2:12 pm

Hi Pete,

Actually you can access IPCs under 1000… it’s not really hacking- it’s just working around the “barriers” they put in place- don’t directly input the ID, instead do a search and open the ID that way, or navigate through the sponsor tree.

Anyways, i don’t mean to play the correction game, you’re most likely correct (that they can hide it), like did people ever wonder what happens to the payout if you’re within the 1st 8 levels? well, of course the check of over $800k gets mailed to TNI corporate office, where else would they mail it?